Is Toyota essential for Subaru survival?

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FRAWLS

Middle Lane Hogs
After last weekend I think the best way to lower global emissions is to ban curry houses and Guinness. At least then we might be making a real difference to global warming unlike the governments new CO2 based road tax which will make absolutely no difference, not even half of one percent.

I think the greatest threat to the future of the current breed of performance cars are these nonsensical CO2 obsessed road taxes. That's why the tie up with Toyota is a great thing for Subaru in the long term as they have huge resources and technical expertise when it comes to emissions. I can't see Toyota selling the new Subaru Boxer engined Celica with big emissions engines so it only stands to reason that Subaru's Boxer engines will also benefit from Toyota's input in cleaning up the engines. If Audi can make a 270 bhp 2.0 Turbo produce 189 co2/km (600.00 p/y road tax) then fair play to them but others must follow especially Subaru who rely heavily on sales of its turbo'd motors.

The life blood, so to speak, of any football team is its junior teams and in the same way the life blood of car companies is its new models. The success of Subaru as a brand will depend on its ability to adjust to the new CO2 driven motoring environment and the speed at which is adjusts. If they clean up their act then the future is bright but they must do this now. With Toyota as its partner I think Subaru's future is safe and all the Toyota bashers may well be glad of them as they could very well prove the savior of the brand.

That's just my opinion, what do the rest of you think?

Frawls
 
If oil prices go the way there are, this time last year $60 barrel now nearly $140, can you imagine what they will be in 5 years time.

Then the way I see it is that there will have to be another technology that does not use food crops to produce fuel or some form of energy to replace oil/petrol. Just like when steel was invented it very quickly became the standard. That will happen with transport soon I hope.
 
It's reconed that if the people of the world keep using oil the way it is that we will hit the reserve in ten year then it's bye bye petrol cars altoghter! So Tax won't matter a fu*k!
 
on prime time tonight they were saying that oil could go as high as $250 a barrell by next year...
 
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on prime time tonight they were saying that oil could go as high as $250 a barrell by next year...
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Saw that myself, holy fook :shock:

The price of oil is doubling year on year, this time last year we were at $76/barrel, now its $136 !! Considering that, its very plausable that next year could be $250, can;t imagine the pump price :cry:

I've also heard that there is 1.3 trillion barrels still waiting to be tapped in Africa ( can;t remeber whcih country ) so its not all doom and gloom yet!
 
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on prime time tonight they were saying that oil could go as high as $250 a barrell by next year...
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I've also heard that there is 1.3 trillion barrels still waiting to be tapped in Africa ( can;t remeber whcih country ) so its not all doom and gloom yet!
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One of the reasons this whole enviromental push is on as well as grossly inflated oild prices..They don't want Africa having the kind of wealth the middle east does...you find oil in deserts one thing africa has plenty of
 
The only reason why oil is at this price is due to people speculating on oil prices. If you want to buy 100,000 barrels of oil you only have to stump up a mere $0.07 per barrel. The banks will fund the rest to a long established company. It is nothing to do with oil shortages. So you can blame all those rich Texan oil barons for the price of a litre of go go juice.
 
Hard to know who to believe. The Goverment, the oil companies or the ranting hippies!!! We're all doomed.
The end is nigh has bein happening for year's. Wonder would Subaru go like BMW and make Hybred type cars.
Hope they don't go the Toyota Prius way. God one Ugly looking yoke. :subaru:
 
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