Cheap and good engine oil

really? haha just goes to say what different opinions people have, even people of the same profession on the same cars

as i said its what iv been told, im just being a sheep really, following :icon_lol:

not sure that make much of a difference
 
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if it is good enough for a wrc car its surely good enough for some impreza or legacy.all ye boys put a bit too much faith in motul i have used nothing in my car only mobil 1 5w30 which is cheap by comparison and i have done 94000 hard miles on the car since i bought it there was 72000 on it then and i have had no issues ,the secret with oil is change it often thats the fact of i.t total is excellent oil and thats a good price
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i have it on good authority that Mobil1 10w60 motorsport is the best oil to use on EJ's

get mine from Halfords, its quite costly at €65 odd but you cant put a price on a working big end :icon_grin:

defiantly dont run 5w30 though guys! especially if you drive hard that stuffs like water in comparison
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who do you mean ?? by sayying good authority. i use mobil 1 15 w 50

and as you can read from dec's post, he runs 5 w 30 without out issue for a long time and he likes the track too with a few trips to the ring for good measure.
 
Very hard to get the Mobil 1 15w50 these days most places don't sell it of say it has been replaced by the 10w60
 
I used Motul in my yoke because I'm reliably informed its the best oil available on the market. Basically its what Ciaran told me to use :icon_lol: .. I like to give my cars a bit of stick so want something that will stand up to high temps and maintain a good pressure and motul apparently does that :smile:

I was also told that 5W30 is not good for any car which will run high temps as it starts to disintegrate once above 100degrees. Now, maybe that depends on the individual manufacturer used or the frequency of oil changes but thats from somebody who would know.
 
from a few engine builders and general mech's,

yeah its totally subjective really, some people can run 5w30 and be fine for ages and others do one track session of hard driving and blow their engines, just like some people smoke their entire lives and live to be like 100 haha

just means they will wear faster i suppose, inadequate lubrication etc

i also found when i went from 5w30 to 10w60 i got much better and consistent oil pressure
 
Well I know that the use of 5W30 was listed as the probable cause of 1 engine failure on our trackday recently for the very reason that the oil turns to water above 100.

I was always of the opinion that 10W40 was good and what Subaru recommended as standard but if you were modified and like to "use" the car as it should be used, the 15W50 was the way to go.
 
If you look at any forums there is threads that are pages upon pages long about which oil, what type etc etc..
I stick with what i know works for me, so 2mro if i was buying oil if they had Mobil, total , millers oil on special offer that only cost me 20 quid... i would still pay out for the Motul.. its just my preference end of day
 
lads it does not matter who makes the oil.all oils have to be graded by a standard test ,so you should always look for the broadest range in an oil that means the lowest cold temp number which is 0 and the highest hot temp number which is 60 so the best oil on a scientific basis for cold start protection and for high temp operation like track is 0w60 thats the facts of it :thumbsup:
 
Lads I use oil called HPX its 20/50 it was recommended to me by my engine builder
and it's all I us and never had a problem for the last four years, oil pressure
always stayed high but then I change every 5k, some mite remember my car
blowing up at the trackday it was not an engine failure the fuel pump packed
in and she ran lean and got hot and had to go, as Dec said oil is all graded so
use whatever oil you want just change it regular or as dec sais to me all the time
don't be spoiling it and look at the results of his car :clap:
 
I'll put it this way lads-there arent nearly as many oil brands in the world as everyone thinks,same goes for tyres.
 
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lads it does not matter who makes the oil.all oils have to be graded by a standard test ,so you should always look for the broadest range in an oil that means the lowest cold temp number which is 0 and the highest hot temp number which is 60 so the best oil on a scientific basis for cold start protection and for high temp operation like track is 0w60 thats the facts of it :thumbsup:
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Its not that simple
Things like how long an oil takes to get to its working temperature should be considerd for road car, not much point in having an oil that takes 15mins to get to its working temperature when you are traveling 5 mins to work also some oils are just too thick for new engines and are more suited to engines with wear etc etc.. if it was as simple as you say Dec sure they would be no need for the millions of threads on forums world wide asking what oil to use, and oil companies would only have one type of oil available... Life would be so simple.
 
thats why i think the Motul 15w50 is too thick for daily driving especially in the coming months and probably doesnt provide much cold start protection. I'll be change to Silkolene 10w50 in next few weeks which was recommended by opie oils to me
 
thats the stuff im talking about just in a different grade. the 10w50 offers excellent cold and hot protection so can be used all year round and also safe on track
 
yea ive used it on all my high proformance engined cars just different grades. i was using the 15w 50 but i agree the 10w50 would be better protection in cold
 
[quote author=WAGON DEC link=topic=31946.msg366637#msg366637 date=1318719160]
lads it does not matter who makes the oil.all oils have to be graded by a standard test ,so you should always look for the broadest range in an oil that means the lowest cold temp number which is 0 and the highest hot temp number which is 60 so the best oil on a scientific basis for cold start protection and for high temp operation like track is 0w60 thats the facts of it :thumbsup:
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disagree...one needs the thinest of grades that would provide adequate pressure (~10psi/1000rpm) throughout the temperature range...excess pressure due to high oil density creates unnecessary impedance...
 
Way over my head now with all these big words.
Asd always puts motul in so that's what I use and never had a prob in any of my cars.
 
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