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hiwd
Guest
Short vid of the new Focus RS. Sounds nice 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLge9_42S48&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLge9_42S48&feature=channel_page
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ericsti
Guest
Saw one down at Rally Ireland.
Took these photo's of her.
Beautiful car.
Took these photo's of her.
Beautiful car.
JAMIE-TYPERV6
Octane Boostaholics
Savage car... if i wasn't a Scooby nut... I'd have one of these! 
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ericsti
Guest
A friends brother bought one and there was an electrical surg in her the other day and it blow a hole in the ECU. He has sent it back and demanded a new car.
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hiwd
Guest
And did he get the new car Eric?
Stephen.
Stephen.
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ericsti
Guest
It's on order I beleave.
Mark Cahill
Full ISDC Members 2015Member Number 555
Thats the third time i'm heard of a surge problem on these cars! Not a good sign! 
Beautiful looking car though! Especially in white!
Beautiful looking car though! Especially in white!
JAMIE-TYPERV6
Octane Boostaholics
I want one! Good review in Top Gear Mag this month!
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six spoke clive
Guest
id love one.
arent they powerd by a VOLVO engine 
?????? 
davelegacy
Member Number 16
nice and chunky looking..........
scooby1wrx
Petrolheads
nice looking motor nice sound to, but it has to be jap or nothin atall 4 me :lol:
You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
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You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
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Its rare that I completely disagree with you but you're wrong on just about every point you've made above.
1. The Renault has the same type of pivot arm suspension as the RS. Both work on the same principal of the wheel turning around the the "knuckle" or pivot joint not the strut. Read EVO magazine, it's all there in black and white. Revoknuckle is Fords name for the same thing ie the pivot joint.
2. Autocar who have just driven the new RS said it's as fast as anything they've ever driven cross country! I rate their reviews highly, being the world's oldest car magazine but I'll reserve judgement until EVO gets their hands on it. EVO were one of the few magazines to pan the previous RS when all around were marveling at it's brilliance, which was the usual British bias towards Ford and in particular fast Fords.
3. The new TT RS is the spiritual successor of the original Quattro. When you add the essential options to the new Cayman S it will be much more expensive and likely slower in-gear. As the TT RS has not been reviewed yet I cant say how good it will be but if it's anything like the RS4 it will be stunning and just listen to that sound again....wow! Also Audi have detuned its 2.5 5 cylinder engine so as not to tread on its R8's toes. With a simple 400 euro remap it would easily add another 50bhp which would give it superior performance to any of the cars you named none of which have a hybrid aluminium space frame chassis like the TT RS.
4. Until the the FQ 300 and STI are group tested against the Ford RS it's hard to say which is best but I suspect on a track the RS will be the fastest and on the road it could well be the fastest also.
5. Price wise the RS was developed without awd to save money but yet it will not undercut its direct rivals much when it goes on sale. Fast Fords and in particular the RS models have some of the highest residuals of any car so the RS may proove to be quite a bit cheaper in the long run. The new RS will be produced in much greater numbers than the last model so its residuals may not be as strong as the older car.
[quote author=FRAWLS link=topic=13039.msg160768#msg160768 date=1235580155]
You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
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Its rare that I completely disagree with you but you're wrong on just about every point you've made above.
1. The Renault has the same type of pivot arm suspension as the RS. Both work on the same principal of the wheel turning around the the "knuckle" or pivot joint not the strut. Read EVO magazine, it's all there in black and white. Revoknuckle is Fords name for the same thing ie the pivot joint.
2. Autocar who have just driven the new RS said it's as fast as anything they've ever driven cross country! I rate their reviews highly, being the world's oldest car magazine but I'll reserve judgement until EVO gets their hands on it. EVO were one of the few magazines to pan the previous RS when all around were marveling at it's brilliance, which was the usual British bias towards Ford and in particular fast Fords.
3. The new TT RS is the spiritual successor of the original Quattro. When you add the essential options to the new Cayman S it will be much more expensive and likely slower in-gear. As the TT RS has not been reviewed yet I cant say how good it will be but if it's anything like the RS4 it will be stunning and just listen to that sound again....wow! Also Audi have detuned its 2.5 5 cylinder engine so as not to tread on its R8's toes. With a simple 400 euro remap it would easily add another 50bhp which would give it superior performance to any of the cars you named none of which have a hybrid aluminium space frame chassis like the TT RS.
4. Until the the FQ 300 and STI are group tested against the Ford RS it's hard to say which is best but I suspect on a track the RS will be the fastest and on the road it could well be the fastest also.
5. Price wise the RS was developed without awd to save money but yet it will not undercut its direct rivals much when it goes on sale. Fast Fords and in particular the RS models have some of the highest residuals of any car so the RS may proove to be quite a bit cheaper in the long run. The new RS will be produced in much greater numbers than the last model so its residuals may not be as strong as the older car.
kanye west
Octane Boostaholics
Oh no not again :lol:
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You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
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Its rare that I completely disagree with you but you're wrong on just about every point you've made above.
1. The Renault has the same type of pivot arm suspension as the RS. Both work on the same principal of the wheel turning around the the "knuckle" or pivot joint not the strut. Read EVO magazine, it's all there in black and white. Revoknuckle is Fords name for the same thing ie the pivot joint.
2. Autocar who have just driven the new RS said it's as fast as anything they've ever driven cross country! I rate their reviews highly, being the world's oldest car magazine but I'll reserve judgement until EVO gets their hands on it. EVO were one of the few magazines to pan the previous RS when all around were marveling at it's brilliance, which was the usual British bias towards Ford and in particular fast Fords.
3. The new TT RS is the spiritual successor of the original Quattro. When you add the essential options to the new Cayman S it will be much more expensive and likely slower in-gear. As the TT RS has not been reviewed yet I cant say how good it will be but if it's anything like the RS4 it will be stunning and just listen to that sound again....wow! Also Audi have detuned its 2.5 5 cylinder engine so as not to tread on its R8's toes. With a simple 400 euro remap it would easily add another 50bhp which would give it superior performance to any of the cars you named none of which have a hybrid aluminium space frame chassis like the TT RS.
4. Until the the FQ 300 and STI are group tested against the Ford RS it's hard to say which is best but I suspect on a track the RS will be the fastest and on the road it could well be the fastest also.
5. Price wise the RS was developed without awd to save money but yet it will not undercut its direct rivals much when it goes on sale. Fast Fords and in particular the RS models have some of the highest residuals of any car so the RS may proove to be quite a bit cheaper in the long run. The new RS will be produced in much greater numbers than the last model so its residuals may not be as strong as the older car.
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Isnt the knuckle on the Rs in the center of the strut acting as a sort of double wishbone? could be wrong but I read it was a new patented design..the r26r keeps the strut but adds a knuckle? either way I have read up on I wouldn't be spouting I wasn't trying to contradict you just add something to the discussion..
As far the RS being faster on track I'm willing to bet it isn't ..its got torque limiters in the first 3 gears..sti/evo will launch much quicker out of bends..of course just my humble opinion not having driven the RS. It wouldn't be an issue only for I was in love with the escort Cosworth and was hoping the RS would be a rally bred weapon to aspire too..I'd hate to buy it and know it was compromised...there's always faster cars that's not the issue and I wouldn't be put of a fwd car but @ that price its into evo/sti territory and I can't see it being as good.
I'm sure the TT will be animal especially if it uses the haldex system with the 60/40 bias for the rear(not sure if this has been confirmed yet?) it will be cracking drive..wasn't doubting the car just the price
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You can clearly hear the front diff when he lets off the gas which makes it sound very motorsport. This car is expected to beat the Renaultsport Magean R 26 R's record as the fastest fwd car around the Nurburgring which it should easily do with the extra 70bhp.
There have been a lot of big claims made about this car. I have even read it would beat an EVO X on a track and I've drive the new EVO X and its handling with that Super AYC is otherworldly. The Revoknuckle front suspension which the RS shares with the Renault dies not eliminate torque steer but it is supposed to reduce it by up to 70%. If that is the case the little torque steer it has should be easily managed by the front diff and clever electronics as ford have taken a 3 pronged approach to dialling out as much torque steer as possible ie suspension, diff & electronics.
The 5 cylinder engine gives it a great sound but it's too muted compared to the new TT RS (which is about to be launched next month) which sounds miles better in the clips I've heard of it lapping the Nurburgring. It's the best sounding new car on the market and sounds even better than the original Quattro if you ask me.
Frawls
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The R26 has McPherson struts with a modified section... the revoknuckle is totally unique to the the RS..Plato drove it on fifth gear and reckons it is the best hot hatch in the world...I was definitely one of the doubters and wouldn't be wholly convinced until i drove it but.
As far as the TT rs goes its 45k sterlling!! mad money puts into boxster s..z4m..even m3 terrirtory..the focus is 25k.
I agree agree about the evo ...the evo is only another 3k uk prices and the sti 330 which is due is only another 1500 both would kill the RS across any surface..Ford claimed the RS was fwd to save weight yet its only 40kg lighter than the awd sti? it will also have the same service intervals..c02 emissions and tax insurance..imo it will be compromised an as ugly as the STI is it is a faster car.
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Its rare that I completely disagree with you but you're wrong on just about every point you've made above.
1. The Renault has the same type of pivot arm suspension as the RS. Both work on the same principal of the wheel turning around the the "knuckle" or pivot joint not the strut. Read EVO magazine, it's all there in black and white. Revoknuckle is Fords name for the same thing ie the pivot joint.
2. Autocar who have just driven the new RS said it's as fast as anything they've ever driven cross country! I rate their reviews highly, being the world's oldest car magazine but I'll reserve judgement until EVO gets their hands on it. EVO were one of the few magazines to pan the previous RS when all around were marveling at it's brilliance, which was the usual British bias towards Ford and in particular fast Fords.
3. The new TT RS is the spiritual successor of the original Quattro. When you add the essential options to the new Cayman S it will be much more expensive and likely slower in-gear. As the TT RS has not been reviewed yet I cant say how good it will be but if it's anything like the RS4 it will be stunning and just listen to that sound again....wow! Also Audi have detuned its 2.5 5 cylinder engine so as not to tread on its R8's toes. With a simple 400 euro remap it would easily add another 50bhp which would give it superior performance to any of the cars you named none of which have a hybrid aluminium space frame chassis like the TT RS.
4. Until the the FQ 300 and STI are group tested against the Ford RS it's hard to say which is best but I suspect on a track the RS will be the fastest and on the road it could well be the fastest also.
5. Price wise the RS was developed without awd to save money but yet it will not undercut its direct rivals much when it goes on sale. Fast Fords and in particular the RS models have some of the highest residuals of any car so the RS may proove to be quite a bit cheaper in the long run. The new RS will be produced in much greater numbers than the last model so its residuals may not be as strong as the older car.
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Isnt the knuckle on the Rs in the center of the strut acting as a sort of double wishbone? could be wrong but I read it was a new patented design..the r26r keeps the strut but adds a knuckle? either way I have read up on I wouldn't be spouting I wasn't trying to contradict you just add something to the discussion..
As far the RS being faster on track I'm willing to bet it isn't ..its got torque limiters in the first 3 gears..sti/evo will launch much quicker out of bends..of course just my humble opinion not having driven the RS. It wouldn't be an issue only for I was in love with the escort Cosworth and was hoping the RS would be a rally bred weapon to aspire too..I'd hate to buy it and know it was compromised...there's always faster cars that's not the issue and I wouldn't be put of a fwd car but @ that price its into evo/sti territory and I can't see it being as good.
I'm sure the TT will be animal especially if it uses the haldex system with the 60/40 bias for the rear(not sure if this has been confirmed yet?) it will be cracking drive..wasn't doubting the car just the price