all right lads , Tanx for all the comments both good and bad , and big Tanx to nick for doin his first photo shoot cheers lad ! been totally honest about these wheels i wasn't sure if they'd work and i know for some of ya's it aint your cup of tea but i'm glad i made the spur of the moment decision to opt for the bronze over the black , there was a few reasons , firstly i'd all ready done the black wheels on da car way back when i bought it in 07 , secondly i want the car to be individual , i'd never seen bronze on red before even after hours searchin on mr google , and thirdly i love the wheel , basically i wanted somethin different to the black wit red lip which many might say might ave said was the safer or maybe better option , taste is a personal thing and for the moment i'm pleased wit the end result , and anyway i can always get em painted if the novelty wears off ! , lastly Tanx to icetronix for a crackin deal and jimmy sunderland for changin my Tyres over on saturday morning , he had some grief ha ha ,