Fair point Johnny I ment secondhand . know what you mean just not a fan of black myself they look really really well when there clean but there just too hard to keep out my way anyway with Scratches and stone chips .
Agree with you abou the extras not being on all of them I Don't get the point . It's the extras that makes it special
I agree about the black, imo its the best colour when clean but the worst when dirty
don't think id have a black car again as I just don't like cleaning them