alright lads i fitted a brand new standard rad to my car i filled it with water and coolant and i let it warm up to working temp i took it for a easy spin when i got back i noticed the bottom hose was still cold my question is would the thermostat be stuck??? i left the car tick over for 20 mins and the gauge did not move above normal temp (half way) and the top of the rad is hot! what ye think?? 