are the muppets in goverment afraid they are still not takeing from motorists? 
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2012/0215/1224311787212.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2012/0215/1224311787212.html
more vrt tax
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scumbags still wanting us to 
and be screwed
and be screwed
Anto J
Octane Boostaholics
sorry lads prob going against the grain, but i think its a load of ball bag that it costs the same to tax a golf as a 5 series or e200. I think owners of prestige marques should pay more.
I know it would be difficult to implement but maybe a sliding scale tax based on the value of the car would be very fair, therefore the older the car the cheaper the tax.
but as I say time and time again TAX IS NOT MENT TO BE FAIR
I know it would be difficult to implement but maybe a sliding scale tax based on the value of the car would be very fair, therefore the older the car the cheaper the tax.
but as I say time and time again TAX IS NOT MENT TO BE FAIR
wagon dec
Member Number 257
i think road tax should be abolished all together and it should be payed through the fuel you use that is the only fair emissions based way to do ,because if you think about it lets say a focus 1.6 diesel they emit 104 grams of co per km. a subaru sti is 243 grams per km so if like my womans car for work she does 60,000 km per year that makes her car emit 6.24 tons a year. an sti on average probably does 10000 -15000 we will say 15000 for the sake of it that means the sti emits 3.645 tons so by paying through the fuel the focus pays nearly double the tax as it should do because it has more emissions per year .the only problem here is the sacks have fuel already taxed to the hilt
bandriszal
Petrolheads
They do pay more. They pay lot more money for the car as a result much more VAT.Anto J said:
JAMIE-TYPERV6
Octane Boostaholics
That's the only way to do it Dec. It's the most sensible method... You pay based on your usage. It's been suggested before but the gobshites would never do anything that sensible or fair.
they say the problem with putting it in the fuel is that people who have to travel long distances to work will be penalized as-well
and also the cost goods will rise substantially due to extra cost of transport
luke ming flannigan was on today and he had a great idea
make motor tax payable monthly via direct debit
when he asked about this he was told they don't do this as the motor tax department make extra money per year from the extra charge it is to pay 3 or 6 months rather than 12 , they don't want to loose that
but he rightly pointed out that if it was a direct debit system more people would tax there car rather than avoiding it
id love to pay my tax direct debit
would save a lot of hassle
the tax system at the moment is all over the shop and does need reforming
the greens made absolute fookin shi1t off it
and also the cost goods will rise substantially due to extra cost of transport
luke ming flannigan was on today and he had a great idea
make motor tax payable monthly via direct debit
when he asked about this he was told they don't do this as the motor tax department make extra money per year from the extra charge it is to pay 3 or 6 months rather than 12 , they don't want to loose that
but he rightly pointed out that if it was a direct debit system more people would tax there car rather than avoiding it
id love to pay my tax direct debit
would save a lot of hassle
the tax system at the moment is all over the shop and does need reforming
the greens made absolute fookin shi1t off it
Anto J
Octane Boostaholics
BAwagon said:
Fair point, a €50000 car will mean about 10k extra to the revenue over and above a €20000 car. I suppose what I should have said is owners of €50000 cars should pay a higher rate of annual road tax than the owners of €20000 cars or €3000 cars for that matter based on the fact that they can afford it.
gonzogicker
Petrolheads
Quote Scoobycolm. "and also the cost goods will rise substantially due to extra cost of transport"
This could be fixed with a fuel tax reduction for goods,work vehicles and lorries.
A direct debit system would work for a main car,but not for a weekend car that might be in the garage all winter. I'd like the option of direct debit though also.
This could be fixed with a fuel tax reduction for goods,work vehicles and lorries.
A direct debit system would work for a main car,but not for a weekend car that might be in the garage all winter. I'd like the option of direct debit though also.
Rob Spec C
Octane Boostaholics
Tax on Transport vehicle could be claimed back similar to vat so no increase in transport goods.
Gonzo, think he means it should be introduced alongside the existing tax sytem as an alternative for people who cant pay up front, so you could still pay for 6 months tax during the year
Is there anywhere you can find out the quantity of petrol and diesel sold throughout the country in 2011, and also find out the amount of car tax income in 2011?
Gonzo, think he means it should be introduced alongside the existing tax sytem as an alternative for people who cant pay up front, so you could still pay for 6 months tax during the year
Is there anywhere you can find out the quantity of petrol and diesel sold throughout the country in 2011, and also find out the amount of car tax income in 2011?
yeah I meant that direct debit could be available aswell as paying in a single transaction
just to make it easier for people to have tax on there car
tax on transport i dont know about that i was just saying what i always hear every time this debate comes along on radio etc.
still if you put it in the petrol the person who has to travel a fair distance just to provide for his family is being hit and i dont think that is fair at all
as for the quantity of petrol and diesel those figures have to be available somewhere
maybe go straight to the "Irish petrol retail association " http://www.ipra.ie/
send them a email and ask
or " Commission for Energy Regulation" http://www.cer.ie/en/homepage.aspx they would have to reply back
just to make it easier for people to have tax on there car
tax on transport i dont know about that i was just saying what i always hear every time this debate comes along on radio etc.
still if you put it in the petrol the person who has to travel a fair distance just to provide for his family is being hit and i dont think that is fair at all
as for the quantity of petrol and diesel those figures have to be available somewhere
maybe go straight to the "Irish petrol retail association " http://www.ipra.ie/
send them a email and ask
or " Commission for Energy Regulation" http://www.cer.ie/en/homepage.aspx they would have to reply back
chris139ryan
Octane Boostaholics
I wish it was like that in this countryWAGON DEC said:
doggy
New member
Sweetcakes said:
From SIMI, fuel duty approx 2.5bn in 2010, with road tax approx 1bn
http://www.simi.ie/uploads/documents/news/SIMI Pre Budget Submission 2012.pdf
They will continue to shaft the motorist as we are relatively benign and motor fuel (like most energy) is price inelastic, so regardless of what the price of fuel is, people still fill up as they need to get to work, drop kids to school etc. Ok they may think about taking needless long journeys but by and large people need to fuel their cars. They showed their true colours by incentivising people into buying eco-friendly small cars. Once they got them, then they upped the tax. Expect a tax weighting on diesel in the next few years when some genius figures out that 70% of the motoring population buying new cars now buys a diesel car.
Excellent find 
Spot on there with your observation also
Spot on there with your observation also
doggy said:
PatrickBuzzin
Well-known member
They showed their true colours by incentivising people into buying eco-friendly small cars. Once they got them, then they upped the tax.
Was it not FF that came up with the cheaper tax rates?
They were never goin to leave the new rates in place for to long. Way to much revenue lost with everyone buying newer cars. Back to the old rates I'd imagine.
Was it not FF that came up with the cheaper tax rates?
They were never goin to leave the new rates in place for to long. Way to much revenue lost with everyone buying newer cars. Back to the old rates I'd imagine.