pros and cons of buying a b4?

you dont know if oil pump or oil modine was changed. no idea if it was mapped etc.

so cannot say new owner ragged it as big end bearing could well of been on scored etc
 
And you have no idea who i am or how i have been driving it. I am sorry i trusted my garage man who is a well known and well respected garage man in my area i am not as car technically minded as i should be thats why i cant answer your questions i am sorry
 
[quote author=railrun link=topic=35596.msg408653#msg408653 date=1347744678]
Christ i left my yolk with this guy for 3 days and he bust it he must of been driving the shite out of it.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3904704

I am sad to see this i thought he would look after the old girl but i was wrong
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This is one of the pitfalls of buying a B4, because of the cheaper insurance a lot of them are bought by lads looking to move up from Civics, Mivec lancers etc....the B4 won't take that king of abuse...you can drive them hard once they have the right oil, right fuelling (very important), and are warmed up and down correctly, and not driven to the redline in every gear.
The torque is dropping off way before the redline so its pointless anyway but I know a couple of lads who wrecked their B4's in a couple of weeks coming from civics.
 
agreed , no point taking it upto the redline, mines never been over 6.5, and rarely above 6

fuelling is very important, they are a higher compression ratio to Imprezas, 9 as oppose to 8.5 so will be more inclined to Det more than Imprezas

take car of it and it will take car of you, service mine every 3k miles with good oil, use good plugs, only use E5,

if your going to rag it, maybe a stand alone oil cooler,

and also a tip, ignore anything anyone tells you about installing silcone vac lines, or re doing the solenoid box with them, leave it as subaru intended, clean them out periodically but leave them OE, that is unless one breaks, then you dont really have much choice,

uuuum what else....... standard breaks are RUBBISH, maybe invest in some 4 pots, and good pads, steel lines

the Bilstein dampers tend to start to knock with age, but i suppose thats common on cars of this age, even the newest ones are almost 10 years old

i think the main concern if you get one is to get it mapped to E5 or 95 so as to make sure the fueling is ok, i say that though, i havnt :hammerhead:
 
[quote author=goosie208 link=topic=35596.msg408717#msg408717 date=1347876227]
agreed , no point taking it upto the redline, mines never been over 6.5, and rarely above 6

fuelling is very important, they are a higher compression ratio to Imprezas, 9 as oppose to 8.5 so will be more inclined to Det more than Imprezas

take car of it and it will take car of you, service mine every 3k miles with good oil, use good plugs, only use E5,

if your going to rag it, maybe a stand alone oil cooler,

and also a tip, ignore anything anyone tells you about installing silcone vac lines, or re doing the solenoid box with them, leave it as subaru intended, clean them out periodically but leave them OE, that is unless one breaks, then you dont really have much choice,

uuuum what else....... standard breaks are RUBBISH, maybe invest in some 4 pots, and good pads, steel lines

the Bilstein dampers tend to start to knock with age, but i suppose thats common on cars of this age, even the newest ones are almost 10 years old

i think the main concern if you get one is to get it mapped to E5 or 95 so as to make sure the fueling is ok, i say that though, i havnt :hammerhead:
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if u got one standard enough i would proably leave it standard apart for a few changes, but as it goes for mapping, i gues most legacys are brought in and then people dont bother remapping for 95ron fuel, so what happens if ur out and u need to fill up and the station doesnt have octane booster, do u just fill up and pray :pray: it doesnt f@%k the engine up? or heighten the chances of detonation? so i gues the power rating on any legacy the is remapped to 95 is brought down from the 280 on the rsk to 250bhp? and to bring that back up you put on a new air filter and exaust but you can only remap the 2001 model on??????

so so far here is a list iv just guessed so far

rsk editions are slightly more powerful(but differences between it and standard can vary ie..the aero kit,etc)
even well maintained ones can fail
comfier than an impreza(able to keep up but not in the corners?)
gen 4's can be somewhat more reliable. cant remember where i heard that(or if there is any truth in that?)
all twin turbo models have a momo steering wheel? (not sure about the auto's but i stand to be corrected on this line)
i still havent figured out which model has the half leather interior the rsk alone on both
seen a vid on one going uphill on snow and ice and other vids, so fairly impressed with the awd,
actually here one vid i seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw go to 07:50 for the legacy.
there cheap enough but the gen 4's seem to be pricey enough
holds the road something serious(iv been told)
bad on fuel iv you gun it at all


what am i missing? :ponder2:
 
In the BE model 1999-2003 they are all B4 RSK's. The spec of the car is not relevant to RSK.

The only power difference is between the AUTO and the manual. The Auto having 260 v 280 in the manual. The auto runs slightly smaller turbos.

Most properly remapped B4's will make the 280 hp no problem, the un-mapped cars will not...remapped cars will have added boost to compensate for loss of timing the un-mapped cars will not.
You only nee to drive them back to back to see the difference , it transforms the car. It will come on boost earlier and stronger with less of a gap between the turbo's
 
[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=35596.msg408970#msg408970 date=1348155857]
98-01 can be remapped with ecutek.
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Surely all BE models can?
 
[quote author=Dagnut link=topic=35596.msg408969#msg408969 date=1348155569]
In the BE model 1999-2003 they are all B4 RSK's. The spec of the car is not relevant to RSK.

The only power difference is between the AUTO and the manual. The Auto having 260 v 280 in the manual. The auto runs slightly smaller turbos.

Most properly remapped B4's will make the 280 hp no problem, the un-mapped cars will not...remapped cars will have added boost to compensate for loss of timing the un-mapped cars will not.
You only nee to drive them back to back to see the difference , it transforms the car. It will come on boost earlier and stronger with less of a gap between the turbo's
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wel as seeing iv never even sat in one, if i did take one for a test drive, what should i be looking for? someone did say clutch shudder aswel?
[quote author=Dagnut link=topic=35596.msg408972#msg408972 date=1348156781]
[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=35596.msg408970#msg408970 date=1348155857]
98-01 can be remapped with ecutek.
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Surely all BE models can?
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i think i read somewhere that the ecu was upgraded in 2001 to be able to be remapped, but with this ecutek maybe they all can..but if its not mapped how much would it cost? i heard a 1000 quid?
 
[quote author=reillypadraig link=topic=35596.msg408973#msg408973 date=1348157216]
[quote author=Dagnut link=topic=35596.msg408969#msg408969 date=1348155569]
In the BE model 1999-2003 they are all B4 RSK's. The spec of the car is not relevant to RSK.

The only power difference is between the AUTO and the manual. The Auto having 260 v 280 in the manual. The auto runs slightly smaller turbos.

Most properly remapped B4's will make the 280 hp no problem, the un-mapped cars will not...remapped cars will have added boost to compensate for loss of timing the un-mapped cars will not.
You only nee to drive them back to back to see the difference , it transforms the car. It will come on boost earlier and stronger with less of a gap between the turbo's
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wel as seeing iv never even sat in one, if i did take one for a test drive, what should i be looking for? someone did say clutch shudder aswel?
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[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=35596.msg408970#msg408970 date=1348155857]
98-01 can be remapped with ecutek.
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Surely all BE models can?
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i think i read somewhere that the ecu was upgraded in 2001 to be able to be remapped, but with this ecutek maybe they all can..but if its not mapped how much would it cost? i heard a 1000 quid?
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I see what dave was saying now....all BE models can be mapped with ECUTEK that's 1999- 2003 for the Saloon... and 1998 to 2003 for the Estate.

I'm not sure on prices to be honest. I would PM Davelegacy or give him a ring.

Personally i would take someone with me who knows what they are looking for, with an older B4 I would be looking at diffs and gearboxs and a well maintained car. They are fairly durable cars but the major things that can go wrong, you might not be able to spot yourself.
Buying from a member here is always a good idea.
I like B4 soon's Sliver rev d. He is a well respected member on here and looks after his cars. Might be a few quid extra but you get what you pay for.
 
[quote author=reillypadraig link=topic=35596.msg408973#msg408973 date=1348157216]
if its not mapped how much would it cost? i heard a 1000 quid?
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depends where you go, its really, a must, to get Bob Rawle to do it, he's the best hands down,

if you want the convenience of getting it done here, your not far off with your price, Davelegacy will tell you the price for sure

if for some reason your in the UK with your car i think his price is ?£470? which when you covert it to euros will save you €300 ish give or take :thumbsup:
 
[quote author=goosie208 link=topic=35596.msg409002#msg409002 date=1348168335]

depends where you go, its really, a must, to get Bob Rawle to do it, he's the best hands down,

if you want the convenience of getting it done here, your not far off with your price, Davelegacy will tell you the price for sure

if for some reason your in the UK with your car i think his price is ?£470? which when you covert it to euros will save you €300 ish give or take :thumbsup:
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surpose, kinda really want one now, haha.still unsure though,(contradiction much?) i dont want wasting a sellers time by sayin "any chance of a spin der laad?" and i know no one with one around....at al, not even the wagon :boohoo:
 
If you are interested, the seller will let you have a spin but if they really love it, then they probably won't. But they should take you for a spin in it. The fella that bought my B4 didn't actually drive it until he collected it. The only person to drive it was hs mechanic when he was checking it over.
 
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